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Gay marriage on NH agenda

Associated Press
Friday Dec 26, 2008
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Gay rights activists want to replace the term "civil union" with "marriage" in New Hampshire’s 1-year-old civil union law.

Rep. Jim Splaine -- a Portsmouth Democrat -- has filed a bill to make the change, which he says would confer a level of dignity and acceptance on gay couples that civil unions do not. He argues that marriage is a civil contract validated by the state, not by churches as religious institutions.

Other bills on the issue would ban gay civil unions and marriages, allow heterosexuals to enter into civil unions and bar New Hampshire from recognizing gay marriages performed in other states as civil unions.

New Hampshire’s law gives couples in civil unions the same rights and responsibilities as married couples in all aspects but name, but that promise, though largely untested, has clear limits. Gay couples taking advantage of the law acquire substantial new state protections ranging from important health benefits to the ability to inherit without a will. But they are treated legally as unmarried adults in most states.

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  • Anonymous, 2008-12-26 14:13:03

    I hope Rep. Splaine speaks to the gay community, and just doesnt plunge ahead. He’s right...and wrong...on this bill.He’s right in that the *civil* contract is a government recognition of an economic household unit, while the religious approval is a spiritual recognition, and they should be seperate processes.But he’s wrong in assuming that the answer is to permit ’gay marriage.’ The answer is to allow ecclesiastical institutions to retain the conference of ’marriage,’ which would have spiritual but NO legal consequence, and to authorize the State to issue Civil Union Certificates, to *all* households so desiting, whether gay, straight, or non-sexual (such as an eldery brother & sister, or a mother-daughter household).In other words, dont confer ’marriage’ on us gays to make us ’equal’ with straights (while leaving out other household arrangements); instead, completely seperate the Civil from the Ecclesiastical, and give us ALL civil unions.ThomChair, New Hampshire BearsNew Hampshire’s Largest Gay Men’s organization

  • Anonymous, 2008-12-26 19:30:38

    You fail to point out that same-sex married couples, along with those in a civil union, "are treated legally as unmarried adults in most states." This is because of the federal Defense of Marriage Act which changing the word in New Hampshire will have no effect on.

  • Anonymous, 2008-12-26 23:45:14

    The conundrum here is that Marriage is seen in the culture by so many as a religious term, even though it is both religious and civil.I am absolutely all for gay people having equal rights, and I hope you’ll believe me that I dumped $30,000 into supporting it in CA, and spent a week half way in tears when prop 8 passed. And yes I am married 41 years, with 3 adult children, all str8.But the real issue is not marriage per se but acceptance of gay people as ordinary decent people we should love and respect. With time these ordinary decent Americans, probably most people, will become comfortable with seeing gay people getting "civil unioned". And then they will say - hey, why this fuddy duddy term for our gay friends, while we have real civil marriage rights. And then you’ll have the critical support to pass Legal Marriage for all people. And the religious right freaks will see their power diminish, their lies exposed for all to see. And their preachers and priests will preach only to the dust in the Pews, and the dust of their departed. Until they themselves are gone. HallelujahAnd America will live up to more of it’s promises.Just my opinion, but something I’ve mulled over for several years while being deeply embedded in the gay equality / acceptance movement.The other side of the issue is that you might possibly drive through a gay marriage bill in NH, or lose, but you would stir up more hostility while going backwards legally, and empowering the worst of the worst in America - the right wing preachers of hate. Instead of exposing them.Stephen_1553-k@comcast.net

  • Anonymous, 2008-12-27 00:13:18

    State "marriage" is a waste of time as it never can achieve federal marriage rights: joint income tax, immigration rights, joint social security. President Obama wants to give us all federal marriage rights for any "legally-recognized union." Therefore, we should all be lobbying Congress to pass Obama’s LGBT agenda. That would be real marriage equality even it was not called "marriage."

  • Anonymous, 2008-12-27 02:07:51

    State "marriage" is a waste of time as it never can achieve federal marriage rights: joint income tax, immigration rights, joint social security. President Obama wants to give us all federal marriage rights for any "legally-recognized union." Therefore, we should all be lobbying Congress to pass Obama’s LGBT agenda. That would be real marriage equality even it was not called "marriage."

  • Laura NH, 2009-04-13 12:12:51

    Come on people. Can’t we just get along? What is so wrong about two people who love each other and want to commit themselves to each other? Huh? Doesn’t anyone remember the song,"Love one another"? Isn’t it hypocritical to judge others? According to the Catholic religion it is wrong to judge. Jesus loves all of his people. HE is the one who will judge us at the pearly gates. HE didn’t give US here the permission to judge. HE wants us all to love one another and to help each other in times of need. Don’t any of you remember being taught that? I do! Considering that through all of time, people had to keep their feelings hidden because of the backlash from society, the ignorance of society,hence the term, "IN THE CLOSET". Why must people have to shun away from what they feel? Alot of us are upset with our own parents because they never shared their feelings with us as young people, concerning sex talk or illness or just plain commication with them. Children were meant to be seen not heard. Remember that? Those were the days. We have come a long way with our communication with each other and I hope that we will continue to do that. I think communication is very important with each other and with our families and with our children. When a person isn’t educated about being Gay or even what Gay is, there is a problem. It is real life and if you love your family you will teach them about Diversity. That is what makes the world go round. WE ARE ALL DIFFERENT, and we should respect all of our differences. Maybe even try to understand them and educate ourselves about them. I hope that we all can move past this and realize that there are better things in this world to attack and reform. It is very tiring to be looked down upon becasue of being different, but I continue to keep my head held high and live my life honestly and kindly. Hoping that one day I will receive the same respect from others when I walk holding my girlfriends hand with love. Keep your chin up and stand proud because I am proud of who I am and I know this hurdle will be put down.

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